Google to favor GBase in organic search?

Infoworld is reporting Google’s plans with Googlebase. Their source is a Bear Stearns research report.

Google Inc. plans to extend the product search capabilities on its main Google.com Web search engine in the fourth quarter, in time for the holiday shopping season.

A Google official shared the news with attendees of the Professional eBay Sellers Alliance (PESA) Summit in San Francisco this week, according to people at the conference.

When people search for products on Google.com, the system will present them with another search box so that they can refine their query, wrote Bear Stearns & Co. Inc. analysts in a note published Friday.

After people refine their query, Google takes them to a second page populated with product results from the Google Base listings service, wrote the analysts, who attended Google official’s presentation.

“Ranking will be determined by the attributes that the sellers listed for the product as well as by relevancy,” the analysts wrote.

This decision (if true) is good for edgeio customers and partners. We currently automate the inclusion of all of our publishers listings into Googlebase. The more visibility they get in search the better.

And due to the complexities of the GBase APIs and interface it is far easier to publish on edgeio and get into GBase than going direct.

Additionally GBase doesn’t plan to help publishers distribute beyond Google (our core goal). See this story for more.

From the beginning, Google said that Base isn’t meant as a destination Web site, but more like a database to feed information to Google search sites, like Google.com. To stress this point, Google recently removed the search box from the Google Base site.

All in all we are pleased. Our publishers can use us to get into Googlebase easily; and we can be their primary means of being distributed more widely than Googlebase.

However, with our non-partisan hat on, this decision (again, if it turns out to be true) does indicate the difficult “church versus state” issues that Google has. Why would Google (“organizing the worlds informnation”) artificially favor its own listings database over the original items out there on the internet and presumably already in its index? The only answer can be based on financial self-interest. The other wins – structured data in particular – could be achieved by supporting standards based structured data (like microformats for example).

I wonder how Larry and Sergey feel about internal attempts to undermine the neutrality of the Google alogorithm by artificially favoring Google hosted content in organic search?

Links to discussion
Traffick
AuctionBytes
Infoworld

Craig talks edgeio

I was listening to Craig Newmark on Neville Hobson and Shel Holtz’s “For Immediate Release” earlier in the week and was pleased to hear Neville ask Craig about edgeio. Here is Craig’s response: MP3

After listening I decided to record my response to Craig’s response – here it is : MP3

I sent this to Neville so maybe he will include it in his show.

Let us know what your opinions are.

There is a lot happening here at edgeio, I will post news soon.

Open data and web 2.0

Bob Wyman has a post in repsonse to an earlier Techdirt comment at Rob Hof’s blog regarding the key differences between edgeio and Craigslist. I have to say Bob, great post, I strongly agree. Although I still want to make clear – CraigsList is not our enemy or our target. But we do want to be a catalyst for open data, published for free, and shared for free. Thanks for the post.

edgeio announces support for YouTube, Google Video, Skype and PayPal!

We are announcing support for YouTube, Google Video, Skype and PayPal on edgeio. I have been having great fun playing with my new Sanyo Xacti HD-1 camera. The screen shot below shows an edgeio posting that contains a YouTube video (Google Video works also).

YouTube and edgeio with Skype and PayPal

The real listing is here.

As of today you can come and do this yourself on edgeio. Here’s what you need to do:

1. Make a movie of the item you are selling, or want.
2. Upload it to YouTube or Google Video.
3. Click on “Create Listing” on www.edgeio.com.
4. Past in the code for your YouTube or Google Video.
5. Add code snippets for PayPal or Skype or both.
6. Publish your edgeio listing.

Cool stuff if I say so myself :-).

We will build in more explicit support to pick videos from your YouTube uploads and to pick Skype or PayPal buttons in future versions of edgeio.

Have fun, can’t wait to see the results.

New edgeio features to be launched tonight

Later tonight we will be releasing a new version of the edgeio web site. It has a number of new features that we are really excited about. The new site should go live sometime after midnight Pacific time.

1. The ability to post an item for sale directly onto the edgeio web site. No blog needed. When you do this for the first time you will be asked to choose a login and password. On subsequent visits you will be able to post instantly. This is in effect giving you a listings blog hosted by edgeio. In the future we want to consistently add features to this blog platform. Some we already know about (the ability to skin your blog for example). Others we want to hear from you about. feedback@edgeio.com is the place to send product feature requests.

2. The ability to add posts from your blog to edgeio without tagging your posts in advance. To accomplish this simply put your URL in edgeio’s home page and click “get listings”. We will retrieve all recent posts from your blog and you can select which ones to add to edgeio.

3. Tagclouds for cities and for items. Click on the number of cities on the edgeio home page to see the most popular cities on edgeio. After 2 weeks we have around 1200 cities with listings. This grows by about 300 cities a week. We expect to be at 10,000 cities this year. To see category clouds just click on the “more” at the end of each category list on the home page.

4. Advice for power users about how to automate edgeio listings via their RSS feed. We decribe the “edgeio control language” or ECL. This is a means of using tags to tell edgeio a lot about your listing and helps ensure it is listed in the correct cities, and for the correct categories. Over time ECL will evolve into a rich control language for power listers. This is a link from the top of the new edgeio home page.
Rob Hof has written a piece on the new features. We will add more links here as they are published.

Other links:

Read/Write Web

SomeWhat Frank

Mashable

First listings from China

First Chinese Listing on edgeio

The first edgeio listing from China was posted today.

Here is a link to it:

First edgeio listing from China

Original Post

Pretty soon there were several more:


Anima Causa “适形椅”

This is really exciting for us. edgeio was built to provide for bottoms up publishing from every town and city on the earth. To have achieved 12,000 listings in 10 days, and to have listings from 1600 cities feels great. To see Chinese listings is awesome.

I also posted a fuller look at “instant listings” on my personal blog.